About having ears...

This is one of the most inspiring men to me; that unfortunately I will not get to me until eternity. His name...Count Von Zinzendorf. Born in the 1700s I missed him by a little bit. However, what his life has done for me I'm not sure can really be measured in its influence.
Zinzendorf as a young man loved the Lord. Born into a priveleged family he was highly educated in Hebrew, Greek, and a few other languages as well. As a young man he decided that he would dedicated his life to be able to have an inner conversational life with the Father. As a teenager at Halle Academy he and a few friends formed a secret society known as the Order of the Grain of Mustard Seed. They dedicated their lives to each other, to being kind to all men, to obey the teachings of Christ, and to go to the world. The group was known for their prayer vigils throughout the night. Zinzendorf himself, as a young man, was known for his all-night vigils. As an adult, Zinzendorf had much influence in Europe, and men such as the King of Denmark, and the Archbishops of Canterbuy and Paris were known members.
As an adult Zinzendorf was put into many difficult situations, but one that amazes me. there was a people group without a country known as the Moravians. Zinzendorf allowed this people to live on his land, and he shared his life with them. They called the town they lived Hernhut, meaning "The Lord's Watch". As a 27 year old man, the Count left the public life, with all its prestige to work among the troubled Moravians. For their own joy, Zinzendorf came up with a list of principle all member of Herhnhut would obey, known as the brotherlly agreement. Following this committment to Godly principle, prayer, and to a simple lifestlye they began to experience a renewal that later became known as the Moravian Pentacost. During a communnion service its been said that the Holy Spirt "fell upon the entire congregation". The community felt a deep desperation to pray....so began a ONE HUNDRED YEAR prayer movement of around the clock prayer in which men, women, and children all participated. On days when the communnity would have "intercession day" for the sick and destitute...people would walk hundreds of miles to be there. The Wesley's first came to faith in the Moravian community and in John's journal its written, "When will Christianity like this cover the earth like water covers the sea?".
Soon thereafter, was the largest sending out the world had ever seen and what became known as the Protestant Missions Movement....sending people, with their coffins, to Africa, West Indies, Russia, Greenland, America,, and many more places.
William Carey, known as the Father of Modern Missions, actually credits Zinzendorf with this title and oftern referrs to the Count and the Moravian church in his writing. By the end of Zinzendorfs life, missionaries from his church and community had been sent to the West Indies, Russia, Africa, America, and many more.
You might say that God's "hand" was on Zinzendorf. However, I believe this to be the natural outcome of what happens when you commit yourself to listening to the Lord. My favorite story of the Count is this...On his way back from America, the ship he was in was being thrown about in a terrible storm and all the men were deathly scared. The Captain, who tells this story, said he went below deck with a grave look on his face and told the Count to please pray. Zinzendorf simply replied, "the storm will be over in an hour". Sure enough, it was! The captain came rushing down to Zinzendorf and asked him the obvious, "How did you know?". Zinzendorf replied something like this, "Since I was a young man I have dedicated myself to a personal relationship with Jesus and I talk to him about everything. When I find myself in a situation I can't control and bad things are happening I immediately evaluate myself and ask him if there is anything that I am doing that is causing this to happen....when it is me I fall to the ground and ask for his forgiveness and strenghth to bring me through....when Its not me...sometimes I ask Him if He would explain to me why He's allowing this to happen. This time he told me it be over in an hour.
I love it. Makes sense though doesn't it? I mean think about your good friends and your acquaintances. Your good friends you tell things you would never tell those you sorta know. Is it the same with God? Does he tell his good friends more than those of us who are not spending time with him? I think it's possible. Daniel, David, Enoch, Moses, Joshua, Paul, Peter, John, Elijah, Zinzendorf,etc. These are men who had "ears to hear" because they spent time with Jesus.

4 Comments:
Josh, this guy sounds pretty cool. Particularly because he's a 'count'. He probably needed this title as an adult, because he was made fun of so much as a child... I mean, with a last name like that he's just asking to be called Zinzindork.
But on a serious note, I have a hard time believing people when they talk about having a such a serious relationship with God that they 'talk'. I think that part of the reason I have a hard time with this is my experience, I know of nothing remotely close to this.
I also tend to take theological issue with those who do say these things. I always seem to find that when someone talks about their close relationship with God in this manner, they wind up having some kind of wacky or weird theology.
I didn't like the ship story of your count, for several reasons. If I wasn't so coarse to this stuff already, hearing a story like that would make me feel like it's my fault whenever something bad happens to me. Like, this guy could find out if it was his fault, but me (who doesn't hear from God) kind of has to be left in the blue. This, of course, is in addition to the idea that God punishes us for our sins, which seemed to be implied there.
I don't mean to pick on your blog entry. You know that I always enjoy your thoughts. I just think that some things like this can be desctructive as well as edifiying.
Mike,
Yeah, I really didn't do the count much justice in this litte blog but you should check him out on your own, fascinating man.
I think I fail to understand your doubt in this matter, but at the same time I kinda get it. If you don't experience this...why would you believe other people can I guess.
Its very rare, in my life as well, that I feel like i talk to God, and he talks to me...in the same kinda dialogue that you and I would have at a coffee-shop.
I think the "talking with God" that Zinzendorf describes is the same kinda thing that Brother Lawrence had....a constant state of meditation, contemplative, thankful, state of mind. A mindset where one is always including God in the minute by minute existence. Piper talks about himself being able to see the "glory of God" in a glass of O.J. This is the talk I'm referring to.
Think about it...if your always joined together with God in what you do throughout the day...which is the truth right? since he lives in us...than acknowledging that truth and living in that power...is when we can be like Him. You once preached that we could acccomplish greater things than Christ...i mean hows that possible...without living in this state of mind....a state that acknowledge who we truly are ya know?
I would really like to talk about this at length with you,but I think its funny that "post-modern" theology is sorta boxy. I mean even in your own comments you suggest that your theology isn't wacky or wierd...implying you got it right...or more so than a wacky guy...or that you know more about what prayer really is and how its done...
I know what you mean about when bad things happen...you don't like giving your own sin the credit for the bad happening...but really...you have no clue if thats how it works or not do you? Neither do I. Your implying that God doesn't punish us for sins?...and im not so sure thats clear cut.
I agree with your caution however...i can see how someone could run with this and make it to mean something that wasn't intended...but about not liking the story. One thing I'm learning...is all our stories are different ya know. The Counts, mine, and your story is all different. Not all of us will get to talk to God face to face in this lifetime like Moses...but I'm not bitter towards Moses. We need to be careful not to be critical of others experiences..after all...were not in a position to say its not true just based on our experience. Nor are we capable of saying "Gods not liek that" because we haven't the foggiest what he really is like.
Josh, you shouldn't mistake my skeptism for arrogance or confindence in what I know. I made my first comment for two reasons. One, because I think those sort of stories can be very dangerous if not handled properly. And two, because I like my Zinzendork joke.
I think bringing up Brother Lawrence is a good point, and I am, and always have been, fine with that sense of 'talking to God'. I also liked and am fine with your description. My issue, is more to do with God telling a person that a storm will be over in an hour and the possibilty of a storm being a punishment from God.
One thing I do feel pretty certain and very strongly about is that God does not punish us for our sins. At least in the sense of "I commanded you not to do X, you went and did X anyway, now I'm going to send a storm to sink your ship." Now, I'm not implying that there aren't wordly consequences for sin... if you steal something, you'll get caught and punished, If you cheat on your wife your relationship with her will suffer, etc. But I feel like the whole point of Jesus's death on the cross was to change the paradigm of man/God interaction.
This is the whole tearing of the curtain in the temple metaphor/symbology. We've been made clean so that we can be in God's presence and have a real relationship with him (a la Brother Lawrence or Count Z). The curtain (man and God's constant sin/punishment/sacriface/forgiveness cycle) was ripped in half. Why are we pretending that it's still there?
Obviously a lof of these issues are much bigger than can be adequately discussed in blog comments. But I appreciate getting to read your thoughts.
Mike,
I confess its hard for me, and I think most people, to not perceive skepticism as confidence. I am a skeptic, about mostly everything, and especially about blanket statements (which i got from you by the way).
I did not mean to imply that you are "arrognant" but simply that the boldness/confidence in which you say things makes you come accross authorative for sure. Using words like wacky and weird just isn't loving...and if someone was the "wacky/weird" theologian and read this...they would immediately turn you off based on that statement...and miss the chance to truly encounter you ya know?
I loved the joke by the way...i wonder if dork was a popular word yet? But you had to figure worse names were out there. I agree about the possible danger of the story also.
"God does not punish ur for our sins"...just doesn't sit well with me. I think this might be that you and I might have somewhat different presuppositions about what God is actually like.
I like you explanation of the natural outcome of sin...and of course has stood the test of time. Your illustration about the curtain....I'm not so sure I'm sold. In fact the implications of what your original statement about god not punishing sin might be far more dangerious, not handled properly than you might imagine.
this online-dialogue has been good and has given me alot of questions though...
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